Completed Continental European before 1800, Dress and Textiles 9 comments Is one of the sitters here Margaretha van Godewijk, a pupil of Maes, and the other Samuel van Hoogstraten?
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I suggest that one of the sitters is Margaretha van Godewijk (1627-1677) - a pupil of Maes. She appears in several paintings by Maes. There is one other portrait of her on the RKD website
https://bit.ly/3wa7mET. Both were from Dordrecht. The sitter on the right could be Samuel van Hoogstraten (1627-1678). Like Maes, he was a pupil of Rembrandt. Again, Hoogstraten was also originally from Dordrecht. The same lady (Margaretha van Godewijk) may be seen in Hoogstraten's Perspective Box with View of a Dutch Interior in the National Gallery, London https://bit.ly/3gBCO8P.
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The Collection has commented: 'The only secure portrait of Margaretha van Godewijck, an engraving after a lost self-portrait of about 1677, does not show sufficient similarities with the woman in NG 1509 to justify the identification suggested below. I am not aware of portraits of her by Nicolaes Maes. According to the biographer Arnold Houbraken, she spent some time in Maes’s studio, but probably in the 1660s, that is after this was painted. Without further evidence, it seems wise to not change the title of for the time being.'
This woman seems to be a subject of many of Maes paintings. If not clearly Margaretha van Godewijck, is this model otherwise known?
This looks very much like a family group, meaning a married couple with their child. The two proposed sitters do not fit that.
Four responses on day one of this discussion and then silence. Why? For the reason that Jacinto has spelt out above.
The very basis for the discussion is evidently absurd - to suggest that "the sitters here Margaretha van Godewijk, a pupil of Maes, and the other Samuel van Hoogstraten" are pictured together as a family group with a child.
I'd suggest that the discussion should be terminated by the group leader.
As this discussion is about to close, I thought that others might be interested in learning more about the donor Mrs. Mary Georgiana Constance Nisbet Hamilton Ogilvy (1843–1920). It seems that she inherited many family estates.
Stephen Bunyan (1995) wrote at length about both Mrs. Nisbet Hamilton Ogilvy and her grandmother Mary Nisbet, Countess Elgin.
https://nisbetts.co.uk/archives/nesbun.htm
Here is some information about Mary's husband.
https://tinyurl.com/27vhv94k
Please see my Margaretha van Godewijk page.
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/will_ah/margaretha-van-godewijk-1627-1677/
The oil portrait of Margaretha van Godewijk has three large italic letters 'AFF' (bottom left). This may indicate that the portrait was painted by Abraham Furnerius (1628-1654) (Abraham Furnerius Fecit). He was a pupil of Rembrandt at the same time as van Hoogstraten (1640-1648?). Hoogstraten is the probable link with Margaretha van Godewijk.
As for Samuel van Hoogstraten (also from Dordrecht), compare with this self-portrait of 1645
https://www.liechtensteincollections.at/sammlungen-online/selbstportraet10#
